True generosity is giving and expecting nothing in return. Shouldn't it be the same with basic housing? Socialist governments take much better care of their people and don't spend trillions on arms.
Thanks for the comment Tom! We actually spent some of this convo talking about government assistance. Caitlin and her team opted not to use government services because they felt it added too many strings on who and how they could serve and they wanted to keep their operation as simple and judgement free. Specifically, it was the requirement that they ask recipients personal questions about their family size, employment, housing etc. that Caitlin felt might interfere with the "no shame, no questions asked" part of the Red's Good Vibes mission.
Your comment does make me wonder if we just had a different culture around food, giving, need, government assistance, shame, etc. if that might not have led to a different outcome.
My personal opinion is I think we should generally move away from means testing for government programs so that $$ can be maximally spent on services over admin, and Caitlin's experience almost working with the USDA I think was revealing in how it can complicate things. I also imagine anyone who has ever been on SNAP / food stamps probably wants that process to be simpler. Food for thought!
When I said other governments I meant that in Europe many of the governments provide housing etc. Getting data is important and questions/answers could help and be optional. It can be made clear it is to better operate the program etc. It would be interesting to ask the people if they were OK with it? I guess that if the people knew that getting info will improve the program then I bet many would want to help?
What an amazing story of what can be accomplished, if one is determined and puts their mind to seeing it happen!
See https://open.substack.com/pub/chrisherbert/p/socialism-dwarfs-capitalism
True generosity is giving and expecting nothing in return. Shouldn't it be the same with basic housing? Socialist governments take much better care of their people and don't spend trillions on arms.
Isn't this, what normal? Compassionate governments do throughout the world?
Thanks for the comment Tom! We actually spent some of this convo talking about government assistance. Caitlin and her team opted not to use government services because they felt it added too many strings on who and how they could serve and they wanted to keep their operation as simple and judgement free. Specifically, it was the requirement that they ask recipients personal questions about their family size, employment, housing etc. that Caitlin felt might interfere with the "no shame, no questions asked" part of the Red's Good Vibes mission.
Your comment does make me wonder if we just had a different culture around food, giving, need, government assistance, shame, etc. if that might not have led to a different outcome.
My personal opinion is I think we should generally move away from means testing for government programs so that $$ can be maximally spent on services over admin, and Caitlin's experience almost working with the USDA I think was revealing in how it can complicate things. I also imagine anyone who has ever been on SNAP / food stamps probably wants that process to be simpler. Food for thought!
When I said other governments I meant that in Europe many of the governments provide housing etc. Getting data is important and questions/answers could help and be optional. It can be made clear it is to better operate the program etc. It would be interesting to ask the people if they were OK with it? I guess that if the people knew that getting info will improve the program then I bet many would want to help?